Haven’t been on the internet the last few days — my modem got fried in a recent thunderstorm, and I’ve been struggling with the new one to get it to work. Seems to be okay now, but time will tell.
A cousin of mine works just a block or so from me, and we occasionally have lunch together. We go to various places, but it seems that, most often, we find ourselves in the “Picnic Place”, the food court at the Charleston Town Center Mall. Occasionally (experience says that they’re there on Fridays), a group of protesters gather outside the Town Center Mall and hold up a large sign that lists those killed in the “invasion of occupation of Iraq.” Usually, as we walk by, I threaten to confront these protesters, and my cousin begs me not to. Out of respect for his desire not to cause a scene, I don’t.
Friday, I started out to lunch, and though I hadn’t intended it when I started out of the office, I ended up heading to the mall. Since my cousin wasn’t there, I decided to stop and talk to one of the protesters. I stopped and examined the list of names, and he eventually spoke up. “Too many names.” The following is a summary of my discussion with him, as I remember it. My memory, unfortunately, is notoriously unreliable, so please remember that while reading.
While his facial expressions made his opinions on various things clear, I’d like to tip my hat to this gentleman, whose name I failed to get. He was unfailingly polite, and he was much more prepared to answer questions than I imagined that any of these people would be. Judging by the scowl I was getting from the woman next to him, I imagine that the results would have been different if I’d stopped to talk to someone else.
The Polite Protester: “Too many names.”
One Stack Mind: “Yeah. So, what do you know about these people?”
TPP: “They’re dead.” (chuckles, pauses) “Sorry. It’s not funny. They’re people who died in the war. We try to get as much information about them as we can, but mostly, we just know what you see. When they died, their home town…”
OSM: “So, they all died in Iraq?”
TPP: “Yes.”
OSM: “And you’re here holding up their names because… what? You’re protesting the war, right? So, do you think they’re all criminals? You want to honor their noble sacrifice while they were fighting for a good cause?”
TPP: “We don’t really have an opinion on the nobility of the cause. We’re just presenting the information. They all died in a war that was started in violation of the democratic process.” [Ed. note: I'm sorry I didn't jump on this. I'd like to know what the alleged violation of the democratic process was.]
OSM: “You don’t know why they were there — if they believed that the cause was just, they were proud to be there doing what they believed to be the right thing, isn’t using their name for this kind of disrespectful?”
TPP: “Of course, some of them were there because they thought they were doing the right thing. Some of them were there because they had no choice [Ed. note: Apparently, we reinstated the draft and no one told me.]. Some of them were there even if they didn’t want to be because they were doing the duty they’d signed up to do…”
OSM: “So, you’re just here holding the sign so we can see the cost of this war and make our own decisions on whether it was worth it?”
TPP: “Yes.”
OSM: “Fair enough. Thank you.”
Though I wanted to, I didn’t ask if calling our actions in Iraq an “Invasion and Occupation” didn’t constitute a judgement call on Iraq. I mean, there’s definitely some bad connotations with those two things, right? Personally, I would’ve chosen “Liberation and Democratization”.
I really enjoyed talking to this guy and hearing what he had to say, even if I remain convinced that he and I were coming from completely different points of view regarding the Iraqi war. He was very polite, and never seemed to consider my questions to be offensive, despite the fact that (I thought) they revealed my own pro-war bias.
If I do it again, I’ll try to have a camera and a notepad for more accurate reporting.